Oregon State Dams Up the ASU Offense
It was a pleasant evening Saturday at Sun Devil Stadium leading up to the Oregon State and Arizona State matchup, but it quickly turned ugly for the Devils. Lets take a look at how the different ASU units fared against the Beavs.
Quarterback: Danny Sullivan had decent statistics throwing for over 300 yards and completing over 50% of his 58 passes thrown, however his performance looks better on paper than on the field. Sullivan often missed his receivers badly with overthrows, underthrows, and "who knows where he was throwing it" throws. Erickson is left with a difficult decision going into next weeks game against the Wazzu Cougars, to stick with his senior QB or switch to the freshman Brock Osweiler. While the fans are calling for Oz, I have a feeling we will see Sully take the field on Saturday and lead the Devils to a win. (Note: the game is not televised, so we won't ACTUALLY see the game)
Grade: C- (He DID throw for 300+ yards)
Running Back: Nance and Bass were the two RB's to see the field on Saturday. Nance had some good runs and Bass also looked good until he fumbled near the red zone, killing a good offensive drive (which are hard to come by). The ASU running game needs some creativity and needs to be able to line up in the I-formation on short yardage situations. Overall the running game was inefficient.
Grade: C
Wide Receivers: McGaha was the only good receiver. With a career high 15 catches for over 100 yards, McGaha looked 100% healthy. He has some of the best hands of any ASU wideout in history. Aided by Williams injury, Chris was moved into the slot, and caught numerous passes across the middle. Hopefully we continue to do this as Williams seems to drop a lot of passes across the middle. The rest of the receiving corps looked lackadaisical. ASU seems to be depleted of talent at the WR position and could really use a couple of players to step their game up.
McGaha's Grade: A
The Rest of the WR's: C-
Tight End: Do we have any?
Grade: N for nonexistant
Offensive Line: Another decent performance. Sullivan didn't end up on his back too often and they were able to create some holes for the running game. Overall the OL has been impressive this season.
Grade: B
Defensive Line: The DL continues to get very little pressure on the QB. They do a decent job on the running game, but must get pressure on the QB in order for the Devils to win. Pressure leads to bad decisions, which lead to turnovers, which lead to short fields for the offense. Look for Dexter Davis to have a big game in Pullman.
Grade: C-
Linebackers: The LB's are quick to attack the rushing game and smother the outside run. Oregon State was able to break through a few times for some big runs (Quizz) but the LB's were effective in their rush defense. One thing I think the LB's could improve is their passing defense. The LB's are rarely in position to break up passes or make plays on passing routes.
Grade: B-
Secondary: The secondary remains the weakest part of the ASU defense. Too many big plays are made against them, which can be attributed to the lack of pressure on the QB. Holman's interception was basically on a punt, as the ball was in the air forever. I may have even been able to run from the upper deck onto the field and make the play.
Grade: C+
Special Teams: Kyle Williams, PLEASE RETURN A KICK. His decisions to fair catch are growing tiresome. Erickson needs to put someone back there that is able to give the Sun Devils better field position. Williams fair caught a ball when he had excellent blocking and about 10 yards infront of him to run.
Wenzig connected on a FG early and made all his XP attempts. He had one kickoff go out of bounds, which hurts the Devils game of field position.
Trevor Hankins punting ability has gotten exponentially better. Although some kicks may be out-kicking the coverage, his leg is helping the Devils get good field position. His il-timed fumble however, put the Devils in a hole early that they were never able to recover from.
Grade: C- (Due to the fumbled snap and kick out of bounds)
Overall Team Grade: C-
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I don't see any reason not to start Oz
I know the next game is on the road, and that’s tough for a true freshman.
But, this team is not going to win with Sullivan as the QB. He’s not accurate enough, and the coaches clearly don’t have confidence in him to make a throw when we need it.
Sullivan alone is not the entire issue. The OL is falling apart. The WR’s besides Mcgaha can’t catch a pass. We can only do 3 different run plays.
But, if we’re not going to be any good anyway — why not just roll with the freshman and get him some experience? Better to do it now and give him a few games of experience before we have to run the gauntlet of @Stanford, Cal, USC, and @Oregon.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
I guess the only reason...
I could see us not starting Oz is if it sends the message to the rest of the team that Erickson has given up on this season. I don’t really see this being the case, but you never know.
At this point
I’m betting the team would view leaving Danny as the QB as the give up move — not playing Oz.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Oct 5, 2009 10:35 AM MST up reply actions
Your OL played poorly and Sullivan STILL found ways to get the ball off and avoid the sack.
If I were ASU, I’d be playing Sullivan this week, simply to get him back on his feet against the Cougs. I know nothing of this Osweiler guy but the Sullivan-McGaha mid-range game was working so well because McGaha appears to be pretty good but also those shorter routes were the only thing Sullivan had time to throw to.
Give Sullivan credit—he took a lot of hits and didn’t make too many mistakes. Blame that OL.
Yeah, the OL doesn't help things
But Sullivan also missed about 10 different throws, and they weren’t even close.
The fact that you don’t know anything about Oz makes your opinion on this topic incomplete.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Oct 6, 2009 12:55 PM MST up reply actions
The only way I see myself learning about your second stringer is if he’s going to play the Beavers (as I’m not a Sun Devil guy) or if he absolutely blows up when he actually starts playing. Right now he’s a kid on the bench, so all I have to go off of is the guy on the field.
Sullivan was off on a lot of throws for sure, but he also was visibly in pain after getting the crap kicked out of him, so the OL needs to take a lot of credit for that. After only watching part of the Georgia game and our game against you guys I don’t really see him as the main problem. With a better OL he’d have more time to pass and the run game would open up more.
But yeah, I don’t know “Oz” so I can’t speak definitively on this subject…
I think it's pretty clear ASU isn't going to win much more than 5-6 games, 7 at max
with either QB. Might as well get the highly touted true freshman some experience — especially since he’ll be competing with 3 other QB’s next year anyway.
Sullivan does not help ASU win games. He’s not a Pac 10 caliber QB. It’s time to move on.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
I see your point.
Hard to disagree. My only question is do you really want to throw this kid in there if you have a suspect OL that isn’t going to protect him properly? Without run support or a deep receiving corps?
We threw Derek Anderson in during a lost season at USC, burning his red shirt. Not only did he get rattled pretty hard (I’m no pro, but it seemed to set him back developmentally, actually) but at the end of his career we were all wanting one more year BADLY (his senior year was pretty solid).
Anyway, just a thought. You’re in a rough spot though. Hope whoever takes the field leads you past UA at the very least. Beat UO while you’re at it. Good luck tuning up against Wazzu this weekend.
With our OL history...
It doesn’t matter when Oz gets in, he’s not going to have much protection. I think as Sun Devil fans we are so used to Rudy getting knocked down and really beat up but always bouncing back up and being ready to play. Despite the criticism of Rudy, he really was a tough QB. He took hits 10 times harder than Sullivan did and he rarely showed signs of being hurt.
I don't worry about losing redshirt years
If the kid is good enough to play, get him on the field. Most kids don’t want to redshirt anyway.
Oz is 6’8" but actually has pretty good mobility. I’d love to see what he can do, even if the OL might get him killed.
Maybe I just need a reason to be excited about this team, beyond the defense?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
I will say one thing though
Oz played his HS ball in Montana, so maybe he’s just not ready for the starting gig. I’ll trust the E’s judgment on that one.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
This is the most reasonable argument for Danny Sullivan’s continued playing time I have seen yet. When I talked to Brock before he came out to ASU, he seemed excited but I am fairly certain this stage does take getting used to. It would be akin to going from Topeka Community Theatre to a lead role on Broadway. Maybe it could be done, but there has to be some sort of learning curve.
by Cory Williams on Oct 7, 2009 4:25 PM MST up reply actions
I don't see it as an argument for Sullivan
I see it as an argument for Szakacsy (yes – I had to look up the spelling on that). Put me in the “anyone but Sullivan” camp.
I think...
Samson (easier to go with the first name than last) would be the top choice, but hes been injured/trying to get healthy. Hard to get time on the field with a bum arm as a QB.
I'm in that camp as well
But Samson is still dealing with injuries like mIev811 says. I’m not sure that really solves anything.
I’d rather not have Sullivan starting anymore because he just sucks. But, if E and the coaches think that Oz just plain isn’t ready for a Pac 10 game — especially on the road — I can understand that. I don’t see them in practice every day, or the meetings, so I can’t really comment on that.
I think as much as we are all sick of Sullivan, this might be one time we have to trust the coaches’ judgment on the topic.
Now, if E truly believes that Oz is ready, but Sullivan still gives us the best chance to win — that means 2 things:
1. Maybe we should all be worried about Oz’s ability to play QB
2. E is a stubborn as hell old man and isn’t gonna let some dude in his mom’s basement tell him who to play at QB.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
too bad Jack quit
being a life long Broncos fan and a Sun Devil alum I was really excited the day he committed – I’m sure he’s doing just fine these days though focusing on the ladies of Tempe
Well, Erickson is a stubborn old man
http://valleysports.freedomblogging.com/2009/10/05/sullivan-still-the-starter/
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
anyone see this?
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/asu/articles/2009/10/08/20091008spt-asufoot.html
I hadn’t heard that: “Dennis Erickson is continuing with senior Danny Sullivan as a starter but plans to use Osweiler in an unspecified role, depending on game circumstances.”
Sound to me like the leash on Sullivan will be short on Saturday and/or DE is giving himself a way out.

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