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ASU Football Recruiting Talk - Revised 1/7/2010

Putting up this post so we can discuss the upcoming recruiting class, gets updates when we get a new commit, and what anyone is hearing about some of our prospects.  My personal opinion is that this class has the makings to be very good or very poor depending on a few key recruits.  I have noticed that there have been a lot of recruits that have looked and narrowed their decision to ASU and another school and have more often than not chosen the other school. Heres to hoping that DE can do some serious closing in the next couple of months.

Here are the commits we already have:

George Bell, WR - 6-3 with 4.4 40 sounds pretty good to me.  I also heard he used to be a lockdown CB too

Josh Fulton, TE - Not going to be a Miller but anything is better than we saw this year.  Also an in-state guy so I am glad he stayed home.

Kevin Anderson, Mike Willie (JC) and Randy Knust,  WR - All over 6'1" and under 4.5 40

Taylor Walstad, Deantre Lewis, Carl Bradford, and Damian Williams, RB - Dont seem to be gamebreakers but depth is needed.  Walstad is another AZ guy and our first commit.  Bradford is more of a fullback at 6'1" 230

Nduka Onyeali, DE - 6'1" 240 and runs a 4.5-4.6 40.  Just recently named second team high school all american.

Jordan McDonald and Joita Te'i DE - McDonald is a local kid that has good size at 6'4" 215.  Would like to see him redshirt to put on some weight. 

Devan Spann, CB - Playing for one of the best teams in the nation.  Hopefully he can bring his big name teammates this year and next.  There are some huge recuits that would be nice additions to the Sun Devils.

Chris De Armas and Sil Ajawara, OG; Aderious Simmons, Tyler Sulka, and Jamil Douglas, OT - A lot of these kids are big with Simmons and De Armas being teammates at a Cali JUCO.  Douglas and Sulka will need to put on about 20-30 pounds.

Here are the major prospects that would greatly help this program:

Jackson Jeffcoat, DE - I think we might be a long shot at getting him but hopefully he wants to follow in his dad's footsteps. Visited ASU

Hayes Pullard, MLB - He would be a nice pickup since he could start the Crenshaw HS to ASU since we are recruiting about 5 others from their team including the #1 RB in the class of 2011.  Visited ASU

Marquis Flowers, S - AZ kid that would really help this program.  I think he could come in and start right away.  Really hope he becomes a Sun Devil.  Visited ASU

Other pretty big prospect - Eric Dargan - S, Kemonte Bateman -  WR,  James McConico - RB, Soma Vainuku - LB, Kain Colter - QB, and John Cullen - OT.

Hope this gets us started and we should be hearing shortly about some commits coming.  Please update if anyone hears anything new.

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Also keep in mind

that DE typically pulls in most of his recruits very late in the game. We may not hear anything substantial for quite a while.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 3, 2009 11:54 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Looks like we just got another one

Joita Te’i a 6’4" 255 lb DE from CA. I saw a video of him playing but I wasn’t to impressed. Either way he is a Sun Devil and hes good by me. Scout has him a 1 star, Rivals at a 2 star, and ESPN hasn’t scouted him. Here is a link to watch his game film.http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=84261&season=2010&action=upsell&appRedirect=http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player%3frecruitId%3d84261%26season%3d2010

by qbdoyle1 on Dec 3, 2009 3:33 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Recruiting classes so far have bombed

Let’s tally it up …

QB = nothing
RB = nothing
WR = nothing
TE = nothing
OLine = nothing
PR = nothing
KR = nothing
P = nothing
K = Weber (or was this Koetter’s recruit?)
DLine = some good ones
LB = a couple of good ones
CB = nothing
S = nothing

There are a couple of guys so far this year who excite me but most of them elicit nothing but a yawn. The signing today is all too typical – a one-star recruit who had only one offer (from us) and was looking at mediocre schools.

by sundevils on Dec 3, 2009 8:14 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

If you pulled the recruit list from this time last year

you’d see that DE pulled in the better players towards the end of the recruiting process. It seems to be his style or whatever.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 4, 2009 7:06 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like one of our running backs just got bumpede up to a 4 star with Rivals

Looks like some pretty impressive numbers coming against California talent.

RB Deantre Lewis, 5-10/189, Norco (Calif.) – WHY HE’S IN THE 250: It’s easy to get overlooked this year at running back in the state of California because there are so many good ones. Without a doubt, Lewis put his name on the map with the best of them in 2009. You could make the argument that Lewis’ numbers this year came against one of the toughest schedules. Arizona State is getting a heck of a steal. – J.C.

by qbdoyle1 on Dec 9, 2009 1:25 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

eh

I’ll believe it when I see it. I’m sick of getting these smallish backs. Torain is the best RB we’ve had in the last 10 years and he was a big back. Small RB’s who are good like Quiz at OSU are pretty rare.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 10, 2009 7:10 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I wish I knew how fast this kid is. Torain was great and I wish we could get another one of him but at this point our team needs as much talent and players as possible. Wonder how any of our RB’s are going to run behind these 1 and 2 star OL that we are recruiting (besides a couple). I know the star rating means crap most of the time but they are fairly accurate of how good the player is. So lets hope hes decent

by qbdoyle1 on Dec 10, 2009 8:04 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I mean I'm glad we got him

But, I’m going to temper my excitement a bit. Let’s hope if he’s small, that he’s at least fast/quick instead of a plodder like Nance.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 10, 2009 8:07 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Quote from ESPN on him

Lewis is a very dynamic back and overall athlete who could be falling under the radar on the national level. A bit lean with a narrow base to carry the load, but he’s well-defined and could eventually have good body composition for the position once his body fully develops.

You can also see a video of him. Doesn’t look to fast to me but we will see. http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=84236&season=2010&action=upsell&appRedirect=http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player%3frecruitId%3d84236%26season%3d2010

by qbdoyle1 on Dec 10, 2009 8:41 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Looks like we got another OT commit

While he is listed as a 1 star JC OT. He has great size and I love what is written about him.
bq. In the summer of 2007, a 6-foot-7 20-year-old named Aderious Simmons walked into the football offices at the University of Miami and told coaches at the school he wanted to suit up for them despite having never played a down of football in his life.

He has only been playing for 2 years and with that size I hope he can just continue to improve. I dont know anything else about this kid but I like it.

by qbdoyle1 on Dec 10, 2009 10:46 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

can't teach size

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 10, 2009 4:40 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Sil Ajawara OG just signed with ASU

This seems to be a good signing for DE. An OG that was also looking at U of A, UCLA, Washington, and Oregon. 6’4" 305 and is a high 3 star on both rivals and scout.

by qbdoyle1 on Dec 11, 2009 8:40 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Add another OT to the list

Just a 2 star on the ratings but another big OT (6’5" 270). Tyler Sulka from ND High School in CA. Welcome to the Sun Devils Tyler. With all of the JC players coming in my guess is he is an good fit for a Redshirt. Needs to put on a little more wight.

by qbdoyle1 on Dec 13, 2009 7:49 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

ESPN has him listed as a 3 star

You can go to ESPN and see video of him. They project him as a RT

by qbdoyle1 on Dec 13, 2009 7:57 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I'm not going to pretend to know anything about these OL recruits

But, I’m of the opinion that unless you’re a USC or UT, you have to go after quantity instead of quality and hope a few of them stick.

We need about as many 6’5" – 6’7" 300 lbers that we can get.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 13, 2009 8:16 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

At this point, I'd be completely shocked if Jeffcoat came to ASU

When was the last time we pulled in a #1 top recruit that was out of state? It’s always the big time in-state guys that we get (Kyle Caldwell, Zach Miller, etc).

I haven’t watched much film on these guys yet so I don’t have much of an opinion — but one thing is DE always seems to pull in some good kids late so I still have hope.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 7, 2010 8:06 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I guess Burfict was out of state

But he’s part of that pipeline we have to SoCal so that’s not really the same thing as Jeffcoat.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 7, 2010 8:09 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think we have much of a shot either

Still hoping but the number of DE position prospects that we are going after tells me that we are not getting him and the coaching staff knows it.

It looks like we are also going after a pretty good JC DT/DE and he is visiting this weekend. It looks to be between us and USC.

by qbdoyle1 on Jan 7, 2010 8:17 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Jeffcoat cancelled his trip to Florida

Well Florida, USC, ASU, Houston, and Texas were his visits so I would imagine that is his top 5. Now that FL signed Ronald Powell and is not taking a visit there I would cancel them out. Pete Carrol gone from USC, can’t be to inviting as a player. Texas has 3 4 or 5 star DE recruits this year already. Houston, if I was his dad I would recommend going to a bigger school since it is not promised that Jim will be the coach for 4 years. ASU has an opening at DE, not real solid DE recruit coming in. This is a stretch but things might be aligning.

With that said I still think he goes TX.

by qbdoyle1 on Jan 11, 2010 4:05 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well his twin sister already signed to play bball at Oklahoma

So which family tie wins out?

I think the tie actually goes to, you know, the better football program.

Hope not though….

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 12, 2010 7:05 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, it's gotta be UT or OU

I’ll be 100% completely shocked if he chooses ASU.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 12, 2010 8:08 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm hearing rumors here in DFW

that Jeffcoat’s dad is going to OU to be the DL coach. Hmm…who do you think he’ll choose?

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 15, 2010 5:17 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

if that happens this is over

No doubt he goes to OU then

by qbdoyle1 on Jan 16, 2010 7:54 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I wish that title was....

Top Recruit Jackson still has reasons to choose ASU

by qbdoyle1 on Jan 19, 2010 9:05 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That'll be the day

I’m telling you it’s not gonna happen. If it’s an elite recruit, and he’s not from CA or AZ, we don’t have a shot at getting him.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 20, 2010 6:53 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I know there is about no way

It looks to be Texas and Oklahoma are high with ASU and Houston on the back.

by qbdoyle1 on Jan 20, 2010 9:17 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Welp

http://twitter.com/ASUDevilscom/status/8207758517

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 25, 2010 8:00 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Good find

Well it was a fun run

by qbdoyle1 on Jan 26, 2010 8:43 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

You beat me to it

I was just coming in to post the same thing. Well it was fun while it lasted. It hurts that a defensive recruit will not come to our great defense because our offense is so bad.

by qbdoyle1 on Jan 29, 2010 10:36 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

I doubt it has anything to do with our offense. We just flat out cannot compete with OU and UT for recruits. We’ll lose that battle 99% of the time.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 29, 2010 12:11 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Flowers Update

This could be horrible for us. The people at Rivals predict that he lands at U of A.

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=880&CID=1035208

by qbdoyle1 on Jan 7, 2010 8:20 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I stand by my original post

DE is having a horrible recruiting year … if ASU doesn’t beat UA and go to a bowl game in 2010 then DE is gone.

by sundevils on Jan 7, 2010 7:35 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

ASU doesn't exactly have a ton of money just laying around

you think they want to pay 2 coaches again? Doubt it.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 8, 2010 6:41 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Add Ramon Abreu from Marcos

Another in state guy, I like it. Ranked a 3 star safety by both Rivals and Scout. ESPN has him ranked at a high 2 star but had this to say…
 bq. Abreu is an active defensive player that is always around the football. He is a little undersized especially for the linebacker position but could end up as a strong safety ay the next level. This guy could be the king of turnovers; makes a lot of interceptions

by qbdoyle1 on Jan 8, 2010 2:39 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Flowers committed to ua today

boo

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 9, 2010 1:48 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

disaster

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by Cory Williams on Jan 9, 2010 2:14 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

This is turning out to be one of the worst (on paper) classes in a while. Hopefully we can get some USC castoffs now that Caroll left

by qbdoyle1 on Jan 10, 2010 3:20 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well we need to cross off Colter too from the list

We lost out to Northwestern. Not sure how big of a loss this is but I am really getting sick of having a recruit be down to two schools and choosing the other one.

by qbdoyle1 on Jan 15, 2010 11:17 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

So QB Taylor Kelly from Idaho committed

Switched from Nevada — yay?

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 18, 2010 6:56 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

No idea what to think

but I like that he has always loved the devils.

by qbdoyle1 on Jan 18, 2010 7:19 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

We also got a CB/S Elder

He switched from U of A because U of A would accept some of his credits. I wish we could say that we stole him away from U of A but it was more of just a formality. Guy does look like a playmaker though.

by qbdoyle1 on Jan 18, 2010 7:21 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

According to Rivals we just landed someone big!!!

http://arizonastate.rivals.com/

We have received a verbal commitment from one of the highest priorities on our recruiting board. This is great. My guess is either Cullen or Schwab!!

Somebody update if they hear anything

by qbdoyle1 on Jan 20, 2010 3:15 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Scout says it's Schwab

That’s a pretty huge get — he should be starting from day one next year. Love it!

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 20, 2010 10:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

No question about it. He is huge and I hate to say this but I am more excited that we got him then I would if we got Jeffcoat.

We need OL more than DE and I just saw Rivals moved that Onyeali up to a 4 star and is now the number 18 ranked DE. I love James Brooks at our strong side and we should have him for two more years. Jeffcoat will play the strongside with Brooks so for me this Schwab is the most improtant signing for this class.

by qbdoyle1 on Jan 21, 2010 7:44 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like this kid has a big leg

This is a little bit about him from ESPN

bq.A unanimous first-team all-Arizona selection as a senior, Garoutte converted on 15 of 21 field goal attempts with a long of 54 yards. In addition, 75 percent of his kickoffs went for touchbacks.

by qbdoyle1 on Jan 25, 2010 1:12 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Cory, am I doing the blockquote paragraph thing wrong

It used to work perfectly but the last couple times it hasn’t. What I am doing wrong??

by qbdoyle1 on Jan 25, 2010 1:13 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

it looks like you need a space

between your bq. and whatever you want to quote

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 25, 2010 4:12 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Another Corona recruit

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/asu/articles/2010/01/25/20100125asu-football-recruit.html

Sounds like he may greyshirt…

We also got RB Kyle Middlebrooks (didn’t see that one posted yet). This is getting to be a big class at 25 kids so far. Gotta figure one or two won’t qualify, plus Lee may greyshirt. DE always gets some late surprises but it’s gonna be a pretty full class at it is

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 25, 2010 7:58 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

It sure is. I wonder how many scholarships we will have available next year

I think we might only have about 15 to give next year. Not to sure why we loaded up so much on RB this year. I am hoping some of these kids are going to move to CB. We signed 5 RB’s this year and we also have the greyshirt, Washington from Desert Vista, from last years class. So that is 6 scholarships for RB’s this year.

by qbdoyle1 on Jan 26, 2010 8:47 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe this is a good idea for all the RB's

Unless I am missing someone, I think that all of our running backs for next year will be soph’s and freshman.

by qbdoyle1 on Jan 26, 2010 8:51 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well a really slow day on NSD.

We got no commitments today but it sure seemed like the PAC 10 was loading up on good talent. I would have to go back and look but it seems there might be 7 PAC teams in the top 30 classes of recruiting this year. UCLA, USC, Washington, Oregon, Stanford, ASU, and Cal.

I am bummed that Cullen went to Utah.

by qbdoyle1 on Feb 3, 2010 2:57 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

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